How does one take thousands of dollars each year, proverbially bury that money in the ground, and then assume that the money will multiply tenfold in the subsequent 30 years? The simple answer: long term investing takes faith.
Countless what ifs…
What if the economy falters? What if companies fail, your real estate market declines, or your investment advisor makes the wrong picks? There are countless scenarios that could spell ruin in your long term investing. Heck! Who says you’ll even live those 30 years to see the assumed investment profits?
Sell everything! Spend now!
Don’t do that. Tyler Socash (see his awesome TED talk here) recently told me the advice that his financial advisor gave him.
“There’s a balance,” he explained, “On one side, tomorrow is never promised. You should spend money today on the people and activities you love. But at the same time, you’ve got to consider the reality that you’ll likely live a long and healthy life, and that you’ll want to retire at some point.”
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So that’s why you would want to invest. There’s a “likely reality” that you’ll end up wanting to retire, and you’ll want to have some money saved up.
But how to maintain faith that your long-term investing will actually appreciate, or increase, into more money than you have today? How do you combat the fear that your bets might backfire?
The Fulton Chain of Lakes
This genesis for this article popped into my head as I lay on a hammock on Fourth Lake, in New York’s Adirondack Park.
It was a beautiful sunny day. Loons called from the crystalline waters. My dog, Sadie, chased squirrels through the wooded undergrowth. The eastward winds pushed waves and sailboats alike.
Those wind-blown waves belied an interesting detail. The waves of Fourth Lake were clearly flowing eastward. Yet all hydrology data notes that Fourth Lake drains westward into Third Lake, and that the entire Fulton Chain of Lakes flows westward into Lake Ontario.
In the short term, winds and boats and thirsty dogs can push Fourth Lake’s waters in any number of directions. But over the long term, gravity will always win out. The lake will slowly drain westward through the Moose River, the Black River, and into Lake Ontario.
The long term trend is clear and obvious and unavoidable, despite what I witnessed from my comfy hammock. The short term “what ifs” I witnessed were small—and ultimately inconsequential—deviations from the clear trend.
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Markets Behave Like Those Lakes
At least up to this point in human history, investment markets have acted like my experience on Fourth Lake. While short term stimuli can push the markets in any number of directions, long term investment trends show clear upward tendencies.
For example, let’s look at this detailed examination of 100+ years of stock market returns. Here’s one of the many charts from that post. This one shows portfolio values assuming that an investor contributed $100 per week for 30 years (a total of $156K invested).
At worst, someone who invested from 1953 to 1983 would have turned their $156K investment into $500K. That’s the worst case. That’s why investors have faith that their long term investments will have positive returns.
The market will wax and wane. The westward-flowing Fourth Lake can temporarily flow east. The actual data will overshoot and undershoot the trend-line average.
I bet some investors were pretty worried about their “buried money” in 1957, and 1962, and 1966, and definitely in 1970 and 1974. But by the time this particular 30-year period ended, the S&P 500 was at a level 800% higher than where it started.
Long term investing is based on this idea. Eventually, the market “flows up.”
“But it can’t go up to infinity, right?!”
Right. The stock market cannot go up forever. Eventually, the slow heat-death of the universe will ensure that the stock market has a finite cap.
Sorry, that was facetious. Here’s a serious answer.
It’s easy to look at the past 100 years of economic growth and think, “How could this ever continue at this rate? Surely we’re plateauing, right?!” But many experts—and some non-expert blog authors—think there’s still plenty of room for useful economic growth.
For example, I would argue that poverty is still an issue, both in the U.S. and around the world. Efforts to raise the impoverished out of squalor would, by definition, involve economic growth.
Or take a look at the current “green revolution” that’s occurring in the energy sector. Solar and wind power are rapidly becoming cheaper alternatives to carbon-based energy. This is an example of the “creative destruction” that ultimately leads to economic growth. Good ideas get replaced by great ideas, and the society as a whole benefits (or should benefit).
These ideas play into my faith in long term investing. As long as humans remain curious enough to build better stuff, our economies will continue to grow. And thereby, our long term investments will grow.
(End Times of) Long Term Investing
Faithful readers, it’s time to say “Amen” on this article.
Investing, like a wave, is full of up-and-downs, back-and-forths. It takes a degree of faith to believe that your long term investing will pan out, especially amid the proverbial roil.
If (and certainly when) the tides turn, I hope this post gives you the credence and conviction to see the light and continue your long term investing plan.
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One of the keys when it comes to investing for the long term is to make sure you’re minimizing the fees you’re paying to invest your money.
Whether it’s plan administration fees for the company you’re investing with, mutual fund expense ratios and fees, or fees for added account functionality, the more you can minimize how much you’re paying, the better.
Morningstar reports that the average expense ratio for actively-managed equity mutual funds is 1.2% and investment-grade bond funds have an expense ratio of 0.9%. For me, I prefer to invest in mainly low-cost index funds with expense ratios that are much lower.
Beyond saving money on the expense ratios, I also would love to save money on the administration fees I pay in order to invest. My company 401(k) has fees just under 1%, which is way too much for my tastes. I’ve stopped investing there first since there is no company match.
This past week I was doing some research on the new slate of robo advisors that have popped up. One of them jumped out at me because the company is extremely affordable, but it also has shown some of the best results in the past couple of years. Not only do they invest your money for you in a slate of well-diversified ETF index funds, and rebalance your holdings on a regular basis, but they charge you a pretty minimal fee to do it.
This all sounded too good to be true, so I decided to do a full review of this new automated investing service called Axos Invest Managed Portfolios, to see what they are all about.
Axos Invest History
Axos Invest launched several years ago under the name WiseBanyan. They had the goal of being the world’s first completely free financial advisor.
Here’s their reasoning behind why they launched their site.
Herbert Moore and Vicki Zhou founded WiseBanyan after seeing that the incentives between financial advisors and clients were often misaligned. They saw this firsthand while working in asset management and investment banking respectively, and later as colleagues at a quantitative asset management firm. They realized that the main cause of misalignment was a conflict of financial interests, which often resulted in high fees, unnecessary tax consequences, and unreasonable account minimums for the clients. As a result, they set out to build a company that was not incentivized to earn money at its clients’ expense.
WiseBanyan began with the idea that investing is a right – not a privilege. Our mission is to ensure everyone can achieve their financial goals, which starts with investing as early as possible. This is why there is no minimum to start and we do not charge high fees. We hope you are as excited about WiseBanyan as we are, especially what it means for you, your friends, and society as a whole.
Axos Invest was launched with the hope of making investing easy, accessible, and cheap – even for beginning investors who could only invest a small amount every month.
While the service is no longer free (They started charging a 0.24% annual assets under management fee in 2020), they still practice the values of making investing more accessible and affordable for everyone.
WiseBanyan Holdings was acquired by Axos Financial, and as of October 2019 and moving forward the company formerly known as WiseBanyan is now known as Axos Invest.
Axos Invest has become a part of the Axos Financial online banking platform. Check out our full review of Axos Bank.
Axos Invest Account Types – Managed Portfolios Vs. Self-Directed Trading
After reading up a bit about Axos Invest I was intrigued enough to sign up for one of their accounts. I went to their site to find that there are a couple of different account types you can sign up for.
I was mainly interested in signing up for Managed Portfolios since I intended to use this as a robo-advisor to automatically invest, rebalance and reinvest my dividends for me. I wanted it to be hands-off.
If you prefer to research and invest in your own choices of individual stocks, the commission-free Self Directed Trading account may be a better choice for you.
If you’re an advanced trader the Self Directed Trading account has the “Axos Elite” subscription which gives you real-time market data, TipRanks market research, extended trading hours, margin trading, stock lending, and more for a monthly fee.
Head on over to the Axos site via my exclusive invite link below to get started on your Axos Invest account now:
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Opening An Account With Axos Invest
After going to the Axos Invest site to open my Managed Portfolios account, it dropped me right into a brief questionnaire to assess my risk tolerance, investment time horizon, and more.
While you’re answering the questions you’ll see a progress bar and a “current risk score” listed to the right, telling you just how conservative or aggressive Axos Invest believes you are.
My risk score went up and down throughout the survey based on my answers, and when I finally completed it gave me a risk score of 7.2. That would give me an estimated asset allocation of 65% stocks to 35% bonds – which seems about what most would suggest as I’m relatively conservative in my investments, and the bond allocation roughly matches my age (put your age in bonds!)
I decided that I wanted to change my risk score and asset allocation to be a bit more aggressive, however, and you can do that simply by moving the slider to the right (or left if you’re more conservative). I ended up with closer to 75/25 stocks to bond allocation.
After completing the survey you click on the “Open My Account” button, which takes you into the account opening process. It will ask for all of your personal information including an email, password, employment information, and Social Security number (like you would have to at any brokerage).
Once you’re done entering your personal information you’ll be asked to choose an account type. Currently, you can choose:
Taxable Investment Account
Roth IRA
SEP IRA
Traditional IRA
After you choose an account type you’ll be asked to link a bank to fund your account. You can then choose to fund the account with as little as $500. If you want, you can also set it up to automatically invest for you every month. I have it set to automatically invest $300 for me on the 15th and 30th of the month.
Once you’re done your account will be sent to Axos Financial for approval. Their site says it takes about 5 business days for an account to be approved.
Axos Invest Investment Philosophy
Axos Invest will invest your funds based on Modern Portfolio Theory (MPT).
We use the tools of Modern Portfolio Theory to design the optimal portfolio for a given level of risk. In addition, we further optimize our investment process to minimize tax consequences and streamline the reinvestment of dividends and contributions.
Their investment philosophy is built upon four main pillars:
The value of diversification
Keeping fees as low as possible
The value of passive investing
Starting sooner rather than later
Axos Invest will attempt to give you a portfolio that is well-diversified, low-cost, and at low minimums so just about anybody can get started now. They’ll use the ideas behind MPT to give you the optimal portfolio for your given risk score.
The Actual Investments
So what are you getting when you invest with Axos Invest? You’re getting a well-diversified portfolio that contains passively managed exchange-traded funds (“ETFs”).
The funds held with Axos Invest have an average fund fee of 0.12% – the only fees you’ll pay to invest. Here is the breakout for the individual funds they use (the funds used by Axos is subject to change, and probably will) and their expense ratios:
Vanguard Total Stock Market ETF (VTI): 0.03%
Schwab U.S. Broad Market (SCHB): 0.03%
Vanguard FTSE Developed Markets ETF (VEA): 0.05%
Schwab International Equity (SCHF): 0.06%
Vanguard FTSE Emerging Markets ETF (VWO): 0.15%
iShares Core MSCI Emerging Markets (IEMG): 0.14%
Vanguard REIT Index Fund (VNQ): 0.12%
iShares U.S. Real Estate (IYR): 0.42%
iShares Investment Grade Corporate Bond ETF (LQD): 0.15%
Vanguard Intermediate-Term Corporate Bond Index (VCIT): 0.05%
Vanguard Intmdte Tm Govt Bd ETF (VGIT): 0.05%
iShares Barclays TIPS Bond Fund (ETF) (TIP): 0.19%
State Street Global Advisors Barclays Short Term High Yield Bond Index ETF (SJNK): 0.40%
PIMCO 0-5 Year High Yield Corporate Bond Index (HYS): 0.56%
Vanguard Short-Term Corporate Bond (VCSH): 0.05%
As you can see they have a broad diversification that also includes real estate via the Vanguard REIT Index fund, which isn’t something that Betterment gives you.
The performance of Axos Invest has been pretty good. As you can see from the screenshot from Barron’s “Ranking the Robos” article below, WiseBanyan/Axos Invest had the second-best two-year annualized return, through 6/30/19. Not too bad!
Axos Invest Mobile App
When the service first came out one of the complaints some users had was that there was no mobile app for the service. A mobile-optimized app for iOS was released shortly thereafter, as well as an app for Android users.
From the app, you can now do things on the go like check your balances, view your allocations, make a quick deposit, and more. The apps really are very pretty to look at and are a pleasure to use.
Axos Invest Fees & Account Charges
One of the biggest draws for Axos Invest when they started was the fact that they were essentially a fee-free service. While that is no longer the case, they are still very low-cost, one of the lowest-cost robo-advisors on the market.
Here are a few of the fees (or lack thereof) that you’ll see with the service:
Managed Portfolios
Management fee: 0.24% of assets under management. Accounts less than $500 pay $1/month.
Trading fees: FREE
Rebalancing fees: FREE
Dividend reinvestment fee: FREE
Self-Directed Trading
Stock Trading fees: FREE
ETF Trading Fees: FREE
Options trading: $1 per contract
Self-Directed Trading – Axos Elite
Axos Elite is the premium self-directed investing service that offers more powerful investment tools, real-time market data, extended trading hours, lower fees, stock lending, and margin trading.
Monthly fee: $10/month
Stock Trading fees: FREE
ETF Trading Fees: FREE
Margin Trading: 5.5%
Options trading: $0.80 per contract with Axos Elite
So essentially the Axos Invest service is very low cost with only the 0.24% AUM fee for Managed Portfolios. There are no trading fees, and no fees to rebalance your account or reinvest dividends. Competing services often charge much higher annual management fees, so with Axos being one of the very lowest when it comes to fees, you’re saving on those fees right off the bat.
There are some fees related to transferring funds via wire transfer, or do a full account transfer out, although regular electronic funds transfers (EFT) are free.
Electronic Fund Transfer (EFT) fee: FREE for deposits or withdrawals.
Wire transfers in: FREE (although your bank may charge).
Wire transfers out: $30 per domestic wire transfer.
Account closing fee: FREE.
Full account transfer out fee: $75 per account.
Partial account transfer out fee: $5 per security ($25 minimum/$75 max).
Disbursement of funds by check by mail: $10 per check.
Returned check fee: $40 per occurrence.
As mentioned above, Axos Invest’s product and service is very low cost and there are only a few small fees for certain types of transfers or check disbursements.
Premium Add-On Products & Services
There are several premium packages in your Axos Invest account that have a fee associated with them. You can turn them off and on whenever you want.
Currently, the premium packages include:
Portfolio Plus: The ability to create your own custom portfolio from an expanded list of investments. You can choose from lists of different investment classes and types and add up to 20 investments to each portfolio you create. It costs $3/month to use this add-on package.
Quick Cash: When activated this gives you quick same-day deposits, auto-deposit scheduler, and overdraft protection. It costs $2/month to use this add-on package.
Tax Protection: This package will give you tax loss harvesting, selective trading (to remove ETFs you hold elsewhere to avoid the potential for wash sales) and IRAutomation, which helps you to maximize the use of your retirement account deposits, setup auto deposit plans and more. Each month the cost will be the lesser of 0.02% of your average Axos Invest account value (0.24% annually) or $20. So if you have $5,000 in your account, the monthly cost would be $1.
Using these add-on packages is purely optional, but even if you were to turn them all on it likely isn’t going to cost you more than a few bucks per month.
Axos Invest: Great For Cost-Conscious Investors
When I first read about Axos Invest I dismissed it out of hand because I thought that there had to be a catch somewhere, there’s no way they were offering this service for such a low cost when others are charging anywhere from .35%-1.0% annual management fees for similar services.
After looking into it further, however, it does truly seem like Axos Invest is committed to offering a low-cost investing service for both self-directed investors and those who want their portfolios managed for them.
Axos Invest does seem like a good option for newer investors. Not only can you start investing with no account minimums, and low management fees – but you can buy fractional shares with as little as $10 and get a highly diversified portfolio that should match the market in the long term.
The account has SIPC protection that covers up to $500,000 per client as well, so if Axos Invest were to go under you’d be covered.
I’ve signed up for my own Axos Invest account and have been with them now for years. They are my go-to recommendations for new (and even experienced) investors.
As part of back to basics month, let’s use today to explore how you can get out of debt without gimmicks or games.
After twelve years of reading and writing about money, I’ve come to believe that debt reduction ought to be a side effect and not a goal. Getting out of debt is a target, not a habit. And, as we’ve been discussing recently, good goals are built around actions instead of numbers. If you restructure your life so that you’re spending less than you earn, you will get out of debt. It’s a natural side effect.
Having said that, I realize that a lot of GRS readers are struggling to get to square one. Getting out of debt is their goal and primary obsession. That’s okay.
Before you can begin repaying your debt, you must be earning a profit. Unless your income exceeds your expenses, your debt is actually increasing. If you’re continuing to add debt, or if you’re only able to make minimum payments, you must first find ways to spend less and earn more until you have a positive “saving rate”. (Both businesses and people earn profits. But when individuals earn a personal profit, we call it “savings”.)
After you’re earning a personal profit, you can (and should) make debt elimination a priority.
Why You Should Pay Off Your Debt
Debt repayment can improve your credit score, meaning you’ll pay less on everything from rent to car insurance to future borrowing needs. Plus, debt reduction is one of the best returns you can earn on your money.
Investing in the stock market provides an average annual return of about 10% — but that return isn’t guaranteed. Some years the market is up 30%, but other years it drops by 40%. When you pay down a credit card, you earn a guaranteed return of 20% (or whatever your interest rate is). That’s tough to beat.
There are also non-financial benefits to paying off debt, including:
Simplicity. The more debt you have, the more bills you have. It’s easier to manage your money when you have a simple, efficient financial infrastructure. Each time you pay off a debt, you move one step closer to this ideal.
Cash flow. Whenever you eliminate a debt, the money formerly used for that monthly payment becomes available to pursue other goals – including fun stuff like ski trips and knitting supplies.
Freedom. When you have monthly payments to meet, you’re chained to your job. You’re unable to take risks. Once your debt is gone, a wider range of options becomes available to you.
Peace of mind. Best of all, once you’re debt-free, you can sleep easier at night. You’ll put less pressure on yourself, and you’ll have fewer fights about money with your partner.
When I first tried to get out of debt, I lacked a system. Without a plan, I sent extra money to one credit card and then another. As a result, I never seemed to make any progress.
After deciding to become boss of my own life, however, I researched how to get out of debt. Many books recommended a strategy called the “debt snowball”. Although I was skeptical, I gave it a try. The method worked. Using it, I managed to eliminate my debt and begin saving for the future.
Stop Acquiring New Debt
This may seem self-evident, but the reason your debt is out of control is that you keep adding to it. Stop using credit. Don’t finance anything. Cut up your credit cards.
That last one can be tough. Don’t make excuses. I don’t care that other personal finance sites say that you shouldn’t cut them up. Destroy them. Stop rationalizing that you need them.
You don’t need credit cards for a safety net.
You don’t need credit cards for convenience.
You don’t need credit cards for cash-back bonuses.
You don’t need credit cards at all. If you’re in debt, credit cards are a trap. They only put you deeper in debt. Later, when your debts are gone and your finances are under control, maybe then you can get a credit card. (I don’t carry a personal credit card. I don’t miss having one.)
After you destroy your cards, halt any recurring payments. If you have a gym membership, cancel it. If you automatically renew your World of Warcraft account, cancel it. Cancel anything that automatically charges your credit card. Stop using credit.
Once you’ve done this, call each credit card company in turn. Do not cancel your credit cards (except for those with a zero balance). Instead, ask for a better deal. Find a low interest credit offer online and use it as a bargaining wedge. Your bank may not agree to match competing offers, but it probably will. It never hurts to ask.
Establish an Emergency Fund
For some, this is counter-intuitive. Why save for an emergency fund before paying off debt? Because if you don’t save first, you’re not going to be able to cope with unexpected expenses. Do not tell yourself that you can keep a credit card for emergencies. Destroy your credit cards; save cash for emergencies.
How much should you save? Ideally, you’d save $1,000 to start. (College students may be able to get by with $500.) This money is for emergencies only. It is not for beer. It is not for shoes. It is not for a Playstation 3. It is to be used when your car dies, or when you break your arm in a touch football game.
Keep this money liquid, but not immediately accessible. Don’t tie your emergency fund to a debit card. Don’t sabotage your efforts by making it easy to spend the money on non-essentials. Consider opening an online savings account. When an emergency arises, you can easily transfer the money to your regular checking account. It’ll be there when you need it, but you won’t be able to spend it spontaneously.
The Debt Snowball
With the debt snowball, you set aside a specific amount of cash each month to pay off the money you owe. At first, progress is slow. In time, however, you begin to make rapid progress, picking up speed like a snowball rolling downhill.
Step One
The first step is to make a list of your debts. For each obligation, include the balance you owe, the interest rate, and the minimum payment. Arrange the list so that the debt with the highest interest rate is on top. Next comes the debt with the second-highest interest rate, and so on, until you reach the final debt on the list, which will be the one with the lowest interest rate.
For instance, here’s the actual list of my debts from October 2004, ordered by interest rate:
Computer Loan: $1116 @ 15% ($48 min)
Business Loan $2800 @ 11% ($30 min)
Home Equity Loan $21000 @ 6% ($100 min)
Car Loan $2250 @ 5% ($170 min)
Personal Loan $1600 @ 3% ($100 min)
Personal Loan $6430 @ 0% ($60 min)
I had $35,196 in debt and my minimum payments totaled $508 per month.
Step Two
Once you’ve listed your debts, decide how much you can afford to pay toward them each month in total. This should be at least the total of your minimum payments ($508 in the example above), and preferably more. In my case, I started by allocating $700 every month toward debt reduction.
Step Three
Now, for all of your debts except the debt with the highest interest rate, make minimum payments every month. Use the rest of the money you’ve allocated for debt reduction to pay down the debt with the highest interest rate.
The computer loan topped my list of debts with an interest rate of 15%. The minimum payments for the other debts combined to $460 per month. Under this plan, I’d then take the remainder of the $700 I’d allocated toward monthly debt reduction and apply it to the computer loan. Instead of making the $48 minimum payment, I’d pay $240.
Step Four
Repeat this process every month until the debt at the top of the list has been eliminated.
Step Five
Here’s where this method gets powerful. With your first debt defeated, you don’t use your improved cash flow to buy new things. Instead, you use the extra cash to attack the next debt on your list.
If I start by applying $700 toward debt each month, for example, I continue to apply $700 toward debt each month until all of the debt is gone. After the computer loan is retired, I focus on the business loan. Because the minimum payment on my other debts would be $430, I could funnel $270 to pay off the business debt every month.
When the business debt is gone, I’d then throw $370 per month at the home equity loan, and so on. Ultimately, I’d be left with a single loan: the $6430 personal loan at 0% interest. Every month, I’d apply all $700 to get rid of this debt.
Pros and Cons
The debt snowball is powerful and effective. Mathematically, it’s the best way to get rid of your debt. There’s just one problem.
When you attack your debts from highest interest rate to lowest, you’ll pay less money in the long run. Unfortunately, many folks – including me – find the going difficult. In my case, I hit a wall when I reached the third debt on the list, my home equity loan. That $21,000 balance was going to take years to repay. I didn’t have that kind of patience.
Fortunately, I learned there were other ways to order your debts. You don’t have to tackle the high interest rates first.
Building a Better Snowball
Humans are complex psychological creatures. They’re not adding machines. Many of us know what we ought to do but find it difficult to actually make the best choices. (If we were adding machines, we wouldn’t accumulate consumer debt in the first place!) It’s misguided to tell somebody so deep in debt that they must follow the repayment plan that minimizes interest payments. The important thing to do is to set up a system of positive reinforcement.
Because of this, many people prefer slight variations on the debt snowball method. These methods ignore math in favor of psychology.
Dave Ramsey’s Debt Snowball
Financial guru Dave Ramsey has popularized one variation of the debt snowball. Instead of ordering your debts by interest rate, he suggests you attack those with the lowest balances first.
Using Ramsey’s method, my debts from 2004 would be ordered like this:
Computer Loan: $1116 @ 15% ($48 min)
Personal Loan $1600 @ 3% ($100 min)
Car Loan $2250 @ 5% ($170 min)
Business Loan $2800 @ 11% ($30 min)
Personal Loan $6430 @ 0% ($60 min)
Home Equity Loan $21000 @ 6% ($100 min)
As with the standard debt snowball method, I’d make minimum payments on each debt except the top one on the list. At it, I’d throw everything else I’ve allocated for debt reduction each month. When the top debt was eliminated, I’d move on to the one with the next smallest balance.
Ramsey’s variation isn’t as quick as paying high-interest debt first, and in the long-run, you’ll lose slightly more to interest payments. (In my own case, the projections showed it’d take an extra month to repay my debt and I’d pay and extra $841.15 in interest.) However, there’s a psychological advantage to doing things this way.
By attacking your smallest debts first, you get some quick wins, which provide a mental boost. This psychological lift provides extra motivation to keep attacking that debt. Every few months, you get the satisfaction of crossing another debt off the list! Ramsey says this is “behavior modification over math”, and he’s right. In fact, I opted to use this variation of the debt snowball when I repaid my own $35,000 of debt in 39 months.
Adam Baker’s Debt Tsunami
Other experts, including my buddy Adam Baker from Man vs. Debt, suggest yet a third alternative they call the debt tsunami. They argue it’s best to pay off your debts in order of their emotional impact. Attack your debts from smallest balance to highest, they say, but for added psychological boost, prioritize any debt that particularly bugs you.
“I used to be addicted to gambling,” Baker says, “and I had debt that was specifically associated with gambling. To pay that off first changed me as a person. To pay off the $600 I owed on a credit card was great, but it didn’t change me. It didn’t signify that my life was going to be different and that I was going to live in a different way.”
But paying off his gambling debt did mean something to him, so Baker attacked that first.
Here’s another example: Many people borrow money from their parents. These loans may carry interest rates of only two or three percent (or maybe they’re interest free), but they come with a lot of psychological baggage. This is another instance where it might make sense to pay down low-interest debt first because the non-financial rewards are so great.
The most important thing when paying off your debts is to pay off your debts; the order in which you do so is ultimately irrelevant. Find a system that works for you and develop the discipline to stick with it.
Note: It’s less imperative to repay low-interest debt. Businesses use “leverage” to borrow money cheaply so that they can earn higher returns elsewhere. You do the same when taking out a mortgage at low rate (like three percent) or using school loans to improve your education (which will, in theory, provide high future returns). It’s good to repay all of your debt, of course, but it’s okay to make repaying the mortgage a long-term goal instead of lumping it in with your debt snowball.
Supplementary Solutions
You can do other things to improve your money situation while you’re working on these three steps.
First, focus on the fundamental personal finance equation: to pay off debt, or to save money, or to accumulate wealth, you must spend less than you earn.
Curb your spending. Re-learn frugal habits. (Frugality is something with which most college students are all too familiar.) You can find some great ideas in the archives of this site. Also check Frugal for Life.
While you work to spend less, do what you can to increase your income. If possible, sell some of the stuff you bought when you got into debt. Get an extra job. (But don’t neglect your studies for the sake of earning more. Your studies are most important.)
Finally, go to your local public library and borrow Dave Ramsey’s The Total Money Makeover. Don’t be put off by the title — this is a fantastic guide to getting out of debt and developing good money habits. I rave about it often, but that’s because it has done so much to help my own personal finances. After you’ve finished, return it and borrow another book about money.
Simple, Not Easy
Human beings are complex creatures. Some of us are highly logical. Some of us are emotional. Most of us fall someplace in between. We rarely make decisions based on optimal paths; more often, we choose what makes us happy in the short term. I’m not saying that this is the right thing to do — it’s just what happens. For those who routinely make financial decisions based on emotion, it can be difficult to turn things around.
Complaining that personal finance is easy and “why doesn’t everyone do what they ought” is like saying that running a marathon is easy so why can’t everybody run one? Most of us understand how to prepare for a marathon — eat right and run a hell of a lot — but few of us have the dedication and mental fortitude to complete one. However, with a little discipline and some hard work, most people can complete a 10k race.
It’s the same with personal finance. It’s easy to say, “To build wealth, you must spend less than you earn”, but it’s another thing to do it, especially over the long term. In some ways, building wealth is more difficult than running a marathon. Training for and completing a marathon takes months. Dedicating yourself to a sensible financial plan is a lifetime process.
If personal finance were really as simple as understanding the math, we would all be rich. But it’s not. And we’re not. That’s why I think any small financial victory is important. That’s why I run this web site, and why I share whatever tips I can find.
I always say “do what works for you”“. Some people are able to succeed by paying high-interest debt first. But some people — myself included — have only been able to succeed by trying another approach. The approach may not be best from a mathematical viewpoint, but I believe that any method that actually helps you meet your goals is better than one that doesn’t.
Personal finance concepts might be simple, but that doesn’t mean they’re easy. I don’t mean to imply that they are. It took a lot of hard work (and a little luck) for me to get out of debt. It didn’t happen quickly, and it wasn’t easy.
The Bottom Line
As I mentioned at the start, I’ve come to believe that debt repayment is a side effect and not a goal. You shouldn’t make it your primary purpose.
If you do the other things I recommend, such as creating a personal mission statement and boosting your profit margin, you’ll naturally pay off debt as a matter of course. But you’ll enjoy a benefit many people don’t have once their debts are gone.
You see, a lot of people feel lost once they’ve dug out of debt. Search online and you’ll find tons of questions and conversations about what to do next. Debt repayment had given them purpose, and now that purpose is gone. As a result, they lose financial direction. And like a dieter who had aimed for a weight instead of a lifestyle change, an unfortunate few of the newly debt-free find themselves resuming bad habits.
If you’re pursuing other goals and intentionally building good habits, you’ll get out of debt. And once you get out of debt, the good times will continue: That debt snowball you’ve been building will transform itself into a wealth snowball.
Congratulations! You’re on your way to financial freedom!
Have you ever had to dig out of debt? What methods did you use? Were some more successful than others? If you had to do it over again, would you have done anything differently? What advice would you give to others who have just taken on the role of money boss in their lives?
Welcome to NerdWallet’s Smart Money podcast, where we answer your real-world money questions.
This week’s episode starts with a round of Money Hot Takes.
Then we pivot to this week’s money question from Sean:
“Hey folks,
Huge fan of the podcast. I have been listening for years, but this is, I think, the first time I’m submitting a question and it’s a complicated one.
I currently work as an engineer for a municipal utility. As an engineer, I have some ability for job mobility. While I do like my job, I have thought about what it would take to draw me away from my job, and I have had trouble figuring out what a ‘godfather offer’ would need to be.
As a civil servant, I have great healthcare, a pension, job security and overtime if I work beyond my scheduled 40-hour workweek. In the private sector, I have more income potential, but I would lose a lot of these benefits and end up working a lot more hours. I’ve had some trouble figuring out how to evaluate some of these benefits, particularly the pension.
Thank you,
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Episode transcript
Sean Pyles: Hey, Liz, if you had a job that offered you a pension, would you still leave just because you were bored?
Liz Weston: Well, pensions are sweet, but I do like being challenged, so maybe.
Sean Pyles: All right, I’m going to say I wanted a yes or no answer, but I think that that’s OK. I just hope that you would at least stick around until you’re fully vested.
Liz Weston: Well, of course.
Sean Pyles: Yes. But in this episode, we answer a listener’s question who’s considering bailing on a pension.
Welcome to the NerdWallet Smart Money podcast, where you send us your money questions and we answer them with the help of our genius Nerds. I’m Sean Pyles.
Liz Weston: And I’m Liz Weston. Listeners, remember to send us your money questions. Maybe you’re wondering if now is a good time to buy up a bunch of gold or you’re wondering how far in advance you should book an international vacation. Whatever your questions, send it our way. Leave us a voicemail or text us on the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373; that’s 901-730-N-E-R-D. You can also email us at [email protected]
Sean Pyles: In this episode, our co-host Sara Rathner and I answer a listener’s question about how to leave a job. But first, Liz and I are going to get mad because it’s time for another round of Money Hot Takes. This is our occasional segment where we rail against something that we just don’t like in the personal finance space. The goal is for us personally to blow off a little bit of steam and hopefully help our listeners make smarter decisions in a world full of scammers, fraudsters and phonies or sometimes just plain old misconceptions that can cost you money.
Liz Weston: Oh, I love this. This is going to be fun. OK, Sean, what do you have for us?
Sean Pyles: Today, I’m calling out the online, quote, unquote, “courses” that some influencers peddle to their followers. A lot of these classes aren’t providing you any information that you can’t get on your own for free, and the folks teaching them are often, shall we say, not exactly qualified. And a shoutout to Rebecca Jennings from Vox who wrote an article that so well articulates my feelings and concerns around these courses. We’ll have a link to that article in the show notes.
Liz Weston: So what’s in these courses, Sean?
Sean Pyles: Kind of everything that you can imagine you might want to improve upon. There are classes in things like how to use Excel. There are classes in how to get started investing or budgeting. There are even classes on how to make your own class to sell to people, which is a little meta.
Liz Weston: Of course, of course.
Sean Pyles: And the prices vary greatly. Some are under a hundred dollars; others are over a thousand dollars, maybe $2,000.
Liz Weston: Ooh, well, I think I know the answer to this question, but tell us why you don’t like them.
Sean Pyles: Well, as I mentioned at the outset, a lot of people are paying for information that they can get elsewhere for free. And again, many of these people have very questionable credentials. Sometimes the people who are teaching these classes are not actually experienced or qualified in what they’re telling you to do. And in fact, they’re just really good at marketing themselves, which I always have an issue with. People who seem just overly into marketing their own personality for the sake of getting money and attention on the internet.
Liz Weston: Yeah. And I imagine that could cause people not to go to good sources to get their information or leave them with a patchwork of incomplete information.
Sean Pyles: Exactly. They think that they’re getting everything they need to know about how to get started investing from one online class when in fact it might just be a small piece of the picture. Also, they can seem a little scammy to me. This is especially the case with classes around investing. Some will teach you how to invest and then maybe try to get you set up with investing during the class, and they’ll get you set up through a platform that also pays the influencer and affiliate commission, which seems like quite the conflict of interest there. And also, never mind the platform the influencer is peddling might not be the right one for you. So this person is getting money from you signing up for their class, and they’re also getting money from the company that they’re pushing on you as well, which I just don’t like.
Liz Weston: Now, I will say I like online courses in some cases because they help me get up to date or catch up on something I should have learned earlier, like Excel. The Excel courses were very helpful, but they’re not all bad. So how do you determine which are the better ones?
Sean Pyles: I’m with you, Liz. I am not an absolutist. In pretty much anything, there are plenty of great online classes. I’m a huge fan of Masterclass, for example. Not paid to say that; I just use their stuff a lot, but they are very well vetted. I think it’s important to vet your sources and to be selective about the type of information that you’re getting. Maybe a language course from someone who lives abroad and has learned a different language is something that you can more easily get into versus a class that’s about the secret to getting rich. Also, maybe don’t have this online course be the only source of information on the subject.
Liz Weston: Yes, maybe you could even come to a site, I don’t know, NerdWallet.
Sean Pyles: Yeah, we are a great alternative. And you know what? I think some folks might be thinking, “Hey, how is NerdWallet different from these online personal finance influencers or courses?” And to that, I have two words to say: journalistic rigor. Our content is deeply reported, edited, fact-checked, not to mention editorially independent, to ensure that the information that we’re giving is as accurate and consumer-first as possible.
Liz Weston: And if you need more personalized help with your money, there are plenty of professionals who can help you. Financial coaches can help you get a grip on your budget and financial goals. Accredited financial counselors can offer tools to wrangle your debt, and fee-only fiduciary financial planners are a solid choice if you need guidance on building your wealth.
Sean Pyles: Very well said, Liz. So that is my rant, and Liz, now you’re up.
Liz Weston: OK. This is really nerdy, Sean, but I am annoyed that people don’t understand how life expectancy works.
Sean Pyles: OK, you’re right. That is really nerdy. I’m going to need you to elaborate on what that even means and why it’s making you so mad.
Liz Weston: OK. This is important because understanding life expectancy is key to so many things about retirement planning, which is basically how long your retirement will last, right? So you need to know roughly your life expectancy so you can figure out when to take Social Security, and it probably can help you better understand all the debates about raising the retirement age. Remember when I was in Paris and they were setting fire to the garbage over there?
Sean Pyles: Yes.
Liz Weston: Yeah, that’s this debate. So I just read a New York Times article about the best age to retire, and it used the wrong number. It said the average life expectancy was 76 years.
Sean Pyles: OK, so you’re out here dragging the Gray Lady for being wrong, is that right?
Liz Weston: Sorry, hats off to The New York Times, lots of great reporting, but that’s the average U.S. life expectancy from birth. That factors in infant mortality and all the people who die young or young-ish from accidents or disease or whatever. That number is 76, by the way, because largely of all the COVID deaths, which is the reason that life expectancy has dropped a bit. But that number is pretty much irrelevant for retirement planning because the longer you survive, the longer you’re likely to survive. What matters is how much life you’re likely to have left when you get to retirement age. And at 62, which is the earliest age you can claim Social Security, the average man can expect to live until almost 81 and the average woman till 84. If you make it to 65, both men and women are likely to make it to their mid-80s. Now, your mileage may vary. Obviously, lifestyle, genetics, other factors come into play. Unfortunately, Black people tend to have shorter life expectancies. But the more income and education you have, the more years you can probably add to your life expectancy.
Sean Pyles: And I imagine this really matters when it comes to claiming Social Security.
Liz Weston: Oh, it’s so true. If you file early at 62, you are settling for a permanently reduced check. You’re giving up a lot of money because you’re likely to live well past the age when the larger checks that you would’ve gotten for waiting more than make up for the smaller checks you bypassed in the meantime. We talked to Nerd Tina Orem, and her calculator can show you your break-even age. And what’s more, if you’re the higher earner in a married couple, you’ve really done your spouse a disservice if you file early. And that’s because your benefit determines what your spouse gets to live on after you’re gone. So starting early means you’ve permanently reduced the survivor check that your spouse will have to live on for the rest of their lives.
Sean Pyles: Got it. OK. And that’s especially important for men to think about because women tend to outlive men.
Liz Weston: Yeah. And if you are a same-sex couple, again, it’s the higher earner that matters. So it’s something to keep in mind. The higher earner should delay as long as possible. And also, it can really help to use a calculator to estimate your own life expectancy. And there’s a really good one at livingto100.com.
Sean Pyles: Well, I think that we both feel a little bit better getting that out of our system. I don’t know about you, Liz.
Liz Weston: Yes, thank you. I do.
Sean Pyles: Great. Now let’s get on to this episode’s money question segment with co-host Sara Rathner.
Sara Rathner: This episode’s money question comes from the excellently named Sean, who sent us an email. “Hey folks, huge fan of the podcast.” Thank you. “I’ve been listening for years, but this is, I think, the first time I’m submitting a question and it’s a complicated one. I currently work as an engineer for a municipal utility. As an engineer, I have some ability for job mobility. While I do like my job, I have thought about what it would take to draw me away from my job. And I’ve had trouble figuring out what a, quote, unquote, ‘Godfather offer’ would need to be. As a civil servant, I have great healthcare, a pension, job security, and overtime if I work beyond my scheduled 40-hour work week. In the private sector, I have more income potential but I would lose a lot of these benefits and end up working a lot more hours. I’ve had some trouble figuring out how to evaluate some of these benefits, particularly the pension. Thank you, Sean.”
To help us answer Sean’s question, on this episode we’re joined by NerdWallet data writer Liz Renter. Welcome back to Smart Money, Liz.
Liz Renter: Thanks, Sara. I’m excited to be here.
Sean Pyles: So first, I think folks should understand the total value of work benefits because it extends well beyond the cash that you get. According to March 2023 data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, for government workers, benefits represent about 38% of compensation, compared with just under 30% for private-sector workers. As our listener knows, the benefits of government jobs are pretty cushy, and that can be really hard to give up.
Sara Rathner: That 30% to 38% figure might come as a surprise to you because I think when people are evaluating a job opportunity, there’s so much of a focus on the salary and maybe a bonus if that’s part of the deal. But if you’re thinking of leaving your current job, it is worth it to work to understand your total compensation, not just wages, but benefits as well. So listing out your benefits, like paid time off, access to resources like financial advisors or even discounted legal assistance, maybe some cold brew coffee on tap in the office kitchen.
Each of these has a specific value, but it can be pretty tedious to add it all up. Another big thing to think about are taxes. This is a bigger deal if you’re thinking of becoming a freelancer or a contract worker where you’d be on the hook for sorting out your own tax obligation. Based on what you figure out, you might decide whether or not you want to go down the freelancer or contractor route at all, or would you prefer to be a full-time employee at a company? Another big one, this is a really big one: health care.
Liz Renter: Huge.
Sara Rathner: Huge and so expensive. Definitely contact HR during the interview process, or when you have the offer and you have some time to think it over, to get the health care plan options and their pricing.
Liz Renter: Yeah. And I just want to interject, Sara, that’s a good point. If you’re talking to a potential employer or even your current employer about what the health care costs look like, how much they’re covering, keep in mind that employers get a heck of a discount on premiums. They get a group discount because they’re paying for multiple policies at once or helping to pay for multiple policies at once. So if self-employment is under consideration or a job that may not offer health insurance at all, your premiums are going to be much, much higher than what your employer would be paying in the situation where they’re helping to cover those costs.
Sara Rathner: Yes. And I have been in both boats and …
Liz Renter: Same.
Sara Rathner: … real expensive to be self-employed when it comes to health insurance coverage. And that was one of my reasons for not pursuing that for the remainder of my career if I can help it. But you know, you do you. And then also, here’s another one. There are all these extra benefits that really add up. Things like a monthly gym stipend or a cell phone stipend. A lot of remote workers get a home internet stipend as well. And the cost of these things can really offset the price of some of the things you might have been paying for out of pocket if you were previously at a job that didn’t provide this as a benefit.
Liz Renter: Right. And I think those things are far less likely in, like the listener wrote in about, a municipal job or a state government job. Unlikely you’re going to have a keg of cold brew in the kitchen unless you’re in a really affluent city and tax rates are pretty high. But you’re right, some of those things that you take for granted, the snacks and the catered lunches at private industry, really do add up. You can spend a lot of money on those yourself if you’re having to pay for them.
Sara Rathner: Yeah, you definitely see a lot of those benefits in the tech industry because they are just falling all over themselves to make these companies more attractive to job applicants than the tech company down the street. Literally down the street, depending on what city you’re in. And so if that’s an industry where you are weighing some job offers, then yeah, you’re going to see some pretty wild benefits that have a dollar value to them.
Sean Pyles: Well, that said, there is one benefit that you will maybe get at a municipality that a tech company is not really going to be offering you. And that is the pension benefit that our listener wrote in about. And I want to give a quick rundown of how pensions work because they’re pretty incredible and they’re unfortunately not very common. So pensions are typically employer funded. That means the employer is putting in money, which is great. So the amount folks get in retirement depends on wages earned and how long they worked for the company or, in this case for our listener, a municipality.
Then upon retirement, someone who has access to a pension, they get payouts, typically for life. You generally do have to work at an organization for a set amount of time to get full access to the payouts. That’s called being fully vested. But once you’re fully vested, you can leave that job and still get access to the pension benefits upon retirement. So, so cool. I really wish I had a pension. Now, like I mentioned, pensions are really rare nowadays. So again, pensions are a very sweet benefit to have, and I would think very hard about losing that, especially if you’re not fully vested.
Liz Renter: Yeah, absolutely, Sean. And the listener wrote in about putting a dollar figure on their pension. So I just want to know that that’s an extremely difficult thing to do without a lot of details, and a lot of time, and a big spreadsheet and a calculator. Anyways, when you’re thinking about how long you’ve been at a job, how much your employer’s putting in, what the specifics are about vesting and if you decide to leave that government job, to leave your pension, and what would it take to create something comparable yourself? So there’s a lot of numbers involved, a lot of time frames, a lot of assumptions. So this is one instance where we would say, “If you really want to get precise on that measurement, it might make sense to consult with a certified financial planner who can put the dollar amount on those things.”
Sean Pyles: You’d likely want to talk with a CFP who maybe has some gray in their hair and who has done this before since figuring out pensions can be so complicated.
Liz Renter: Right. Yeah, exactly.
Sara Rathner: And honestly, if you have a financial planner that you already have a working relationship with, I mean, job hunting is an excellent time to have a check-in with them in general, and they might even help you wade through competing job offers or even just the comparison of a job offer to what you’re currently working in. And they can help you work through all the financial considerations of those options. And so that is a great way to utilize their assistance.
So let’s get to the other part of a listener’s question. The mushier stuff that folks should consider if they find themselves itching to leave a job. To start, they should ask themselves, what’s behind this urge? Are they bored, unhappy, unfulfilled? Are they upset because there’s no cold brew in the break room and they really want that?
Liz Renter: Yeah, this is key, Sara. I think there’s so many considerations when you’re thinking about a career move. And I had two really major career changes in my younger years. It’s over the past 20 years, but they were really pretty close together when I was in my late 20s. One when I moved from state government to private industry, and then a few years later, I went from private industry to self-employment. So those are pretty big changes. And in each of those changes, I was weighing different motivations. In one case, it was more about the money and advancement, and in the other case, it was more about what’s really going to make me happy long term? And so I think really diving into why and what your motivations are for leaving or staying, and getting clear on those before you start weighing your options, is a good place to start.
Sean Pyles: To what extent did you have that conversation with yourself or maybe with those around you around, “OK, if I leave this job, I might be making a little bit less, but I will be that much happier.” Or, “If I go to this job, I’ll be making a good amount more, but it’s going to be a boring job.” How did you think about those things?
Liz Renter: It’s tough. I probably had limited discussions. So as a single mom, it was just me and my daughter at the time, who was probably 4 when I made the first job change, maybe 7 when I made the second job change. So there weren’t a lot of people for me to toss these ideas around with. And I’m an extremely private person, but these were conversations I was having with myself. And in the first job going from state government to private industry, I realized in state government that, yes, the paycheck is steady, the benefits are nice, but I really love to work hard.
And in my experience, this government job, you were rewarded for how long you were there, not how well you were doing. And that was tough to deal with, and it really bred apathy among the people around me. I wanted to be somewhere where I could work hard and that would be recognized. So that’s not to say that all government workers are taking naps at their desk. That definitely wasn’t my experience, but personally, I wasn’t being recognized for the hard work that I was doing, and that was really important to me.
Sean Pyles: Right. That makes sense.
Liz Renter: And so that one was really more about the professional rewards of working. And then the second one, it was more about the trade-offs. Am I willing to give up some of those professional rewards to really fulfill my personal life? So as I said, my daughter was really young at the time, I was dropping her off early in the morning, I was picking her up after work, sometimes 12 hours later. And the job was paying more than my state government job, but I definitely felt like I was punching a clock and I wasn’t fulfilled, and I totally could not see myself doing that for years upon years. And I knew leaving that job meant I would absolutely take a decrease in pay, at least in the short term, as I got on my feet as a self-employed freelance writer. But when I balanced that against what was really important to me and what was going to make me happy and make me feel good about the way I was living my life, it was a no-brainer.
Sara Rathner: Yeah. I’ve known people who’ve switched jobs out of boredom and ended up regretting it, actually, because the reason they were bored at their previous job was they’d done it for a while and it became rote. But they realized leaving for a greater challenge meant giving up maybe some of the work-life balance and predictability that came with a job that was quote, unquote, “boring,” and they had to make pretty big structural changes to how they operated at home with their household, with their family, to accommodate the new challenges of a new career.
Sean Pyles: Kind of goes back to the idea that it’s not what decision you make, it’s what you do with the decision that you make. If you do leave a job that you’re bored at and you find that your next gig isn’t quite what you wanted it to be, there are going to be other opportunities later on.
Sara Rathner: Yeah.
Liz Renter: I think that’s a good point. When I went into freelancing and I knew I was going to take a pay cut and I was banking on turning that around in a year or two, I always had that in the back of my head like, “OK, worst-case scenario, I’ll get a part-time job for when my daughter’s in school,” or, “Worst worst-case scenario, I’ll go back to working full time.” With a reassessment of maybe I find something that’s closer to home so there’s less of a commute, what have you. But I think knowing that, “OK, I’ve thought through why I want to do it. I know this is the move I want to make, but just in case, I have these outs and these would be perfectly acceptable if things didn’t work out once I make this decision.”
Sean Pyles: Yeah. And I think your experience demonstrates how important it is to think through various scenarios. What could you fall back on if you do need to make a change after this job switch maybe doesn’t pan out how you thought it was going to.
Liz Renter: Right. I think if you’re planning well enough in advance, if you’re sitting around listening to this podcast thinking about, “Well, I’ve been thinking maybe I’m not happy where I am and maybe I should be considering this,” now’s a great time to make sure that, and I know we talk about this a lot on podcast, but make sure that your emergency fund is in place. Maybe cushion it a little bit more. You want to set these guardrails for, OK, sometimes we make decisions with what we think is all the right information and it turns not to work out the way we expected. So if you have those extra guardrails up, just in case, it can make you feel more secure moving forward with your decision when it’s time.
Sara Rathner: Yeah. And keep your professional network warm. Because it is a risk to take a new job, and sometimes you take a new job and hate it immediately, and you’re like, “I’m just going to job hunt again.” And so by keeping that network warm, by staying in touch with old co-workers or friends or relatives who maybe have some professional connections that would be helpful to you, you still also have an out. Not just financially, but also professionally where you’re still open to hearing about opportunities. Because if the jump that you made ended up being a pretty bad bet, then you’re still pursuing other places you could go and you haven’t closed off all the doors to that.
Sean Pyles: Well, now I want to talk about the counterpoint. About when it actually might be a good idea to stick around at a job. Conventional wisdom, at least among millennials, is that you shouldn’t stay at a job for too long because you’ll probably be able to earn more money going to a different job after a couple years. But sometimes staying at a job for potentially several years can be the best choice for people. So let’s discuss that. Liz, you’ve been at NerdWallet nine years, so what’s kept you around and how do you think about that sort of equation?
Liz Renter: So it’s interesting to think back at how this has changed over the generations because, definitely my grandparents to a certain extent and a little bit my parents as well, those generations you were rewarded for just staying where you were. You get a good job with good benefits and you don’t leave for 50 years, and then they throw you this big party. And that’s changed over the years where there’s more mobility and we can experience different opportunities. And I think there’s room for both of that. A little bit of each. So if you are the type that really wants to be loyal to a single company and wants that stability and you’re happy with what you’re getting paid, you don’t have to keep chasing 5% salary increases at other companies. That’s not a requirement. If you’re good where you are, you like your work and you’re working towards your long-term financial goals, that’s totally acceptable. You don’t have to get in on this hustle life.
Sean Pyles: That can also be a good way to approach things, given that the macroeconomic conditions right now are a little shaky. Many companies still have the policy of last in, first out when it comes to layoffs. So for this year in particular, it might not be a bad idea to stick around if you do like the job that you have.
Liz Renter: Right. People are still leaving their jobs at really high rates, but they’re getting into new jobs at really high rates. The unemployment rate hasn’t ticked up, which means people that are leaving their jobs aren’t filing for unemployment, they’re going elsewhere. So that’s a positive sign if you do want to change jobs. But to your point, Sean, there is a lot of uncertainty, and if you’re risk intolerant, it might make sense to sit tight for a while and see how things shake out.
Sean Pyles: Well, Liz, do you have any final thoughts for those who might be thinking about switching jobs right now?
Liz Renter: I would say, yes, it’s as complicated as you think it is. I envision it as you’ve got all of these scales in front of you that you’re trying to balance and you’re trying to figure out, “OK, if I take away this much of my work-life balance, how much salary do I have to add to make it worthwhile?” Or, “If I take away the cold brew in the kitchen, how much of a cell phone stipend do I need to add to make it worthwhile?” So there’s all these scales you’re trying to balance here, and it’s a lot to think about. So you just do the best you can, set up some guardrails just in case things don’t go well.
Sean Pyles: And maybe take your time making a decision. Don’t rush into anything too hastily. Otherwise, the scales may just collapse and go crazy.
Sean Pyles: All right, well thank you so much for talking with us, Liz.
Liz Renter: Thanks for having me again.
Sean Pyles: All right, and with that, let’s get into our takeaway tips. Sara, will you please start us off?
Sara Rathner: Sure. First, know what you’re getting. Compensation can include a lot more than the cash you get. Understand your total compensation ahead of any job hunt.
Sean Pyles: Next up, go beyond the math. Jobs are about a lot more than the money. Consider things like personal fulfillment and work-life balance when weighing other job options.
Sara Rathner: Finally, there’s nothing wrong with sticking around. If you’re fulfilled and well compensated in your current position, staying put might be your best option.
Sean Pyles: And that is all we have for this episode. Do you have a money question of your own? Turn to the Nerds and call or text us your questions at 901-730-6373. That’s 901-730-N-E-R-D. You can also email us at [email protected] Visit nerdwallet.com/podcast for more info on this episode. And remember to follow, rate and review us wherever you’re getting this podcast.
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Do you receive a year-end bonus? Lucky you! While you may be tempted to go on a shopping spree or take your gang out to a great dinner, hold on a second. Yes, you can use some for fun, but you might also want to put some of a year-end bonus toward your financial goals.
Smart bonus money moves may include paying down debt, helping to fund a short-term savings goal (such as a downpayment on a house or establishing an emergency fund), as well as investing the money to potentially achieve long-term growth.
There’s no one right formula for spending (or not spending) a bonus: Each person’s financial situation and future goals are entirely unique.
But here are some ideas for using your bonus — or any other cash infusion, in fact — that can help improve your financial wellness today and tomorrow.
Allocating Some Money to Fun
You worked hard all year. So it’s totally understandable if you want to put some of your bonus money simply towards a few wants vs. just needs.
With any financial decision, it typically doesn’t have to be all or nothing, and that includes your work bonus. In fact, taking a balanced approach to your money might actually help you to maintain the stamina that financial goals often require.
Although the exact split is ultimately up to you, to avoid overspending, you might want to consider putting roughly 90% of your bonus towards your financial goals, and devoting about 10% to “fun money.”
If you’re getting a $5,000 bonus (after taxes), for example, that means you would have $500 to spend treating yourself. The other $4,500 would then go towards putting a big dent in your money goals.
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Chipping Away at Debt
If you have debt — whether from a student loan, car loan, or credit card debt — a bonus can be a great way to start whittling away at whatever balance you have to contend with, or even wiping it out completely.
Doing this can help you avoid throwing more money away just on interest charges, and if you manage to wipe out debt completely, you’ll have one less financial responsibility to stress about every month.
How much of your recent influx of cash should be directed toward debt reduction is entirely personal, and will depend on your situation.
Some financial planners recommend that people with high-interest debt consider putting around half of their annual bonuses toward paying down that debt. But this decision will depend on your individual circumstances.
Since credit card debt typically costs the most in interest, that can be a great place to start. Many credit cards charge close to 20% interest or higher. So if your goal is to ultimately build wealth, it may be smart to minimize credit card balances or, even better, pay them off completely.
It would be unreasonable to expect that you could out-invest what you are paying out in credit card interest. The same idea goes for any high-interest or emotionally stressful debt on your balance sheet.
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Saving for a Short-Term Goal
If you haven’t yet started, or haven’t quite finished, creating an emergency fund, getting a bonus is a great time to beef up that financial cushion.
While many people don’t like to think about the possibility of their car breaking down, a medical emergency, or job loss, should one of these unexpected events occur, it could quickly put you in a difficult financial situation.
Without back-up, you can risk landing in debt should you experience a financial set-back.
How much to sock away for a rainy day is highly personal. But a common rule of thumb is to create an emergency fund that has enough money to cover three to six months of living expenses. You may need more or less, depending on your situation.
If you already have a decent cash cushion, you may next want to think about what large purchases you are hoping to make in the not-too-distant future, say, less than five years.
This could be a downpayment on a home, a renovation project, taking a special family vacation, buying a new car, or any financial step that requires a large infusion of cash.
Then consider using at least some of your bonus check to jump start these savings goals, or add to previously established ones.
It’s a good idea to put money you are saving for a short-term goal (whether it’s a downpayment or an emergency fund) in an account that is safe, earns interest, and will allow you to access it when you need it.
Some options include a savings account at a bank, an online savings account, a checking and savings account, or a certificate of deposit (CD). Keep in mind, though, that with a CD, you typically need to leave the money untouched for a certain period of time.
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Bonus money can also help you start investing in longer term goals, such as retirement or paying for a child’s education. Using bonus money to buy investments can help you create additional wealth over time.
For example, a lump sum of cash can work wonders in boosting your retirement savings. Even if you’re technically on track for retirement, adding more money to your IRA or 401(k) today can leave you with a larger income stream when you’re older. If you’re already contributing to these accounts, be aware of the annual limits.
You can contribute to your retirement using your bonus in a couple of ways. Many companies will automatically deduct from your bonus for your 401(k) at the same rate as usual.
You can also ask your company in advance if you can have a special withholding for your bonus. You may be able to fill out a form (or go onto the company portal) to designate up to 100 percent of your bonus to your 401(k).
If you can’t direct that money to your 401(k), and you’re eligible for an IRA, consider maxing that out instead.
Either one can help get you closer to a great retirement–and may also help you save significantly on taxes in the short term.
People who have kids may want to consider putting some bonus money toward starting, or adding to, a college savings account, such as a 529 plan (which in some states can offer tax benefits).
For financial goals outside of retirement, you may want to look into opening a brokerage account.
This is an investment account that allows you to buy and sell investments like stocks, bonds, and mutual funds. A taxable brokerage account does not offer the same tax incentives as a 401(k) or an IRA, but is much more flexible in terms of when the money can be accessed.
How much of your bonus you should put towards long-term investments is an individual decision that will depend on your current financial circumstances.
The Takeaway
No matter the size of your hard-earned bonus, it’s a good idea to think about how it can best serve you and your goals in both the short and long term. Some smart ways to use bonus money include getting ahead of high-interest debt, setting up or enlarging your emergency fund, saving up for a large purchase (such as a home), as well as beefing up retirement savings and other long-term investments.
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If you have a savings goal that’s coming up in the not too distant future — such as the downpayment on a home, a bathroom reno, or plumping up an emergency fund — you may want to consider some good short-term savings options.
There isn’t a hard and fast definition of short-term savings, but it’s typically considered to be money you want to use in five years or less.
While there are a number of options for short-term savings, one of the best places to start stashing cash for a short-term goal can be a savings account. They can offer safety (so you shouldn’t lose any money), liquidity (allowing you to access money when needed), and growth (meaning they are interest-bearing).
But some of these accounts offer more liquidity and higher interest than others. With a little reading and research, you can start socking your cash away in the right place — and start moving closer to those short-term savings goals.
Should You Invest Short-Term Savings?
Depending on your short-term savings goals, a savings account may be a wise move. One significant downside to any cash savings account is that they tend to have relatively low-interest rates.
You might however wonder: Should I invest this money in stocks or a mutual fund in order to meet my short-term goals more quickly?
Generally speaking, for short-term money, your goal is not necessarily to maximize returns. It is to control the risk — to keep it safe — so that the money is available when it’s needed.
While everyone’s risk tolerance is different, the downside to investing in the market is that you might lose money in the short term. Investment returns start to “smooth out,” or return their average yield, over longer periods. Shorter periods tend to be volatile and unpredictable — especially in the stock market.
cost of living. For money that isn’t needed for many years to come, it can be a smart idea to consider investing to grow beyond inflation.
If you’d prefer to avoid risk with your short-term savings, here are options to consider.
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Option 1: Online Savings Account
Online-only savings accounts, also sometimes referred to as high-yield savings accounts, are an increasingly popular option for short-term savings. As their name implies, these banks or financial institutions only operate online. Here’s the scoop:
• That means no brick-and-mortar locations and no chatting up a banker face-to-face with employees. The upside: When you compare accounts offered by traditional banks vs. online banks, the latter typically pass the savings onto their clients in the form of a higher annual percentage yield (APY).
• A potentially higher rate of interest isn’t the only reason to use online-only savings accounts. The websites and mobile apps for online accounts essentially serve as storefronts, so online financial institutions often devote lots of resources to make sure they’re optimized and easy to navigate.
• Additionally, many online-only institutions don’t have monthly account fees, which can be a real burden for those at the start of their savings journey. (For example, some traditional banks might charge a fee when you balance drops below the minimum.)
• Banking online doesn’t mean you have to forgo the conveniences of your neighborhood bank. You can typically still do all of the important banking duties, such as depositing checks (via mobile deposit, or snapping a picture of the check on your phone), moving money back and forth between accounts, and speaking with a customer service rep.
In the past, most online savings accounts were required by the Federal Reserve to limit withdrawals to six times per month. These rules are evolving; post-pandemic, some banks dropped this rule. Before you sign up, you’ll want to understand the rules for accessing your money.
Also, while online banking is now considered mainstream, it’s always smart to do a little background research before you open an online account. You may want to check, for instance, to make sure an institution has Federal Deposit Insurance Corp (FDIC) coverage, a government-guaranteed program that protects your money.
Option 2: Certificate of Deposit
A certificate of deposit (CD) is a savings account that holds a specific and fixed amount of money, and for a designated period of time, such as six months or three years. In exchange for the deposit, the bank pays a fixed rate of interest.
Generally, CDs with longer maturities offer higher interest rates. For example, a bank is typically going to be willing to pay more for a deposit that’s guaranteed for five years as compared to three months. As a saver, you often get more rewards for the risk.
You may also want to keep in mind that the interest rate on a CD is locked in at the point of purchase, as opposed to the interest rate in a savings account (both traditional and online-only), which may fluctuate. If you’re interested in locking in a certain rate, you may want to consider a CD. (Although be aware that you would be locking yourself into a lower rate, if rates rise.)
While savings accounts are designed to provide regular access to your money, CDs are not. Because CDs have a fixed timeframe, there may be a penalty to access the money before the period is over. And in exchange for the lock-up period, you may find that financial institutions pay slightly more interest than online-only savings accounts.
CDs can be a good option for people who don’t need to touch their short-term savings for a certain period of time. And they are typically FDIC-insured.
Option 3: Money Market Account
A money market account (MMA) is like a mix between a savings and a checking account.
These accounts, offered by banks and credit unions, can allow you to write checks (though you may be limited on how often) and may also have a debit card. (Savings accounts, whether online or at a traditional bank, typically do not allow for check-writing.
Returns on these accounts often beat those on traditional savings accounts. Depending on what’s happening in the economy overall, an MMA may be in line with that of an online-only bank account.
However, MMAs sometimes require higher minimum balances than other types of savings accounts. So, this might be a better option for those with more money to save.
MMAs are considered a safe choice since, like other types of savings accounts, they are typically covered by FDIC if held by a bank, and National Credit Union Administration (NCUA), if held by a credit union. (Although, it’s always a good idea to double-check insurance coverage to be sure.)
Keep in mind that MMAs differ from money market mutual funds, which are not FDIC- or NCUA-insured.
Option 4: Cash Management Account
A cash management account (CMA) is a cash account offered by a financial institution other than a bank or credit union. These accounts are designed to merge the services and features of checking, savings, and investment accounts, all into one offering.
While CMAs are typically offered by financial service providers that are not themselves technically classified as banks, they are still usually covered by FDIC deposit insurance like regular bank deposits — often through a partner bank.
Generally, CMAs function similarly to a traditional checking account, yet pay interest that is often higher than most savings accounts.
Some brokerage firms require a large minimum deposit to open a CMA, or may charge monthly fees for anyone under that minimum. Before opening a checking and savings account, it’s a good idea to ask about monthly fees and minimum balance requirements.
Also, since checking and savings account providers automatically “sweep” your unused cash into investments that pay dividends or interest (which maximizes the account’s profitability), you may want to make sure those sweep accounts are low-risk or FDIC-insured.
The Takeaway
Short-term savings is money that you likely will need in the not too-distant future, such as within two to five years.
There are a number of options for short-term savings, but some of the safest bets include online savings accounts and CDs, among others. These accounts tend to be low-risk, typically allow you to have access to your money when you need it, and can offer a higher return than a traditional savings or checking account.
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The latest weekly survey data from Freddie Mac shows the 30-year fixed-rate mortgage jumped 40 basis points to an average of 6.70% this week, the highest level since 2007.
The survey also indicates a large dispersion in rates, meaning that homebuyers can save hundreds of dollars by shopping around with different lenders.
A year ago at this time, rates averaged 3.01%. “The uncertainty and volatility in financial markets is heavily impacting mortgage rates,” said Sam Khater, Freddie Mac’s chief economist. The index compiles only purchase mortgage rates reported by lenders during the past three days.
Inflation rose more than expected in August as rising shelter and food costs offset a drop in gas prices. Consequently, the Federal Reserve increased the federal funds rate by 75 basis points at its Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) meeting in September.
Another 125 basis points in hikes are still to come in 2022, with a federal funds rate topping out well above 4%.
Treasury yields show higher rates in the short term, signaling a recession on the horizon. The 2-year note, most closely tied to the Fed’s interest rate moves, increased five bps to 4.07% on Wednesday from the prior week. The 10-year note went from 3.51% to 3.72% in the same period.
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On HousingWire’s Mortgage Rates Center, Black Knight’s Optimal Blue OBMMI pricing engine measured the 30-year conforming mortgage rate at 6.643% on Wednesday, up from 6.124% the previous week. Meanwhile, the 30-year fixed-rate jumbo was at 6.294% Wednesday, up from 5.821% the week prior.
An LO in the Miami, Florida area told HousingWire that on a $400,000 home purchase, with 5% down, a 700 FICO score, his clients are being quoted 7% for conventional loans and 6.125% on FHA and VA mortgages.
“This will be a time of changes,” he said. “Many LOs will leave the industry (especially the ones that only do refis and only sell interest rates), others will move probably from retail to wholesale. Lenders will close and some others will need to merge because of the new liquidity regulations that are coming in 2023.”
Pressure on demand
Pressure on rates has sharply reduced demand for mortgage loans, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association (MBA).
The market composite index, a measure of mortgage loan application volume, declined 3.7% for the week ending Sep. 23. The refinance index had a 11% decline from the previous week, and the purchase index was marginally down 0.4%.
According to Freddie Mac, the 15-year fixed-rate purchase mortgage averaged 6.52%, up from last week’s 6.25%. Jumbo mortgage loans (greater than $647,200) increased to 6.01% from 5.79% in the same period.
“Our survey indicates that the range of weekly rate quotes for the 30-year fixed-rate mortgage has more than doubled over the last year,” Khater said. “This means that for the typical mortgage amount, a borrower who locked-in at the higher end of the range would pay several hundred dollars more than a borrower who locked-in at the lower end of the range.”
To convince borrowers to take out a mortgage loan, some loan officers and lenders are highlighting how home prices are more affordable now than last year – and the ability of a borrower to refinance the loan when rates decline again.
“There is more inventory relative to demand, and deals can be found. It’s transitioning to a buyers’ market, as 20% of sellers had a price reduction in August 2022, compared with 11% a year ago,” said Rich Weidel, CEO at Princeton Mortgage. “It’s now possible to buy a home for $400,000 that would have sold for $500,000 in 2021.”
According to Weidel, if a prospective borrower bought that house in 2021 for $500,000 and put 20% down, the principal and interest, with rates at 3%, would be $1,686. Today, if the house could be bought at $400,000 and the interest rate was 7%, the payment would be $2,129.
The homebuyer will pay more $5,316 per year due to the difference in rates, but would save $100,000 buying the house today compared to last year.
“Eventually, rates will come back down, and you can refinance the rate,” Weidell said. “If rates stay at 7%, it would take 18 years for the higher payment of $5,316 per year to chew up the $100,000 you saved buying the house.”
Still, home prices aren’t falling so dramatically in most markets. Not yet anyway.
“Some buyers are giving low ball offers in the hope of having their offers accepted,” one mortgage broker/owner in Southern California told HousingWire. “Still the seller’s motivation is the key factor for whether to drop the price or not. The other issue is that many Realtors are still dreaming about having buyers fight over the properties and use that as a point of sale – but whether they succeed or not, that’s another question.”
For years after the Great Recession, mortgage interest rates hovered at historically low levels, and home buyers became accustomed to borrowing at less than 4 percent — and sometimes less than 3 percent. But in spring 2022, rates began to rise, and once they hit 6 or even 7 percent, buyers stepped up the search for ways to reduce them.
“Buy-downs,” which reduce mortgage interest in exchange for upfront fees, quickly became popular for buyers, especially when sellers were willing to pay the upfront fees as an incentive to buyers in a slower market.
We asked Isabel Barrow, a certified financial planner with Edelman Financial Engines in Alexandria, Va., and Dan Hanson, executive director in market retail at loanDepot in Corona del Mar, Calif., for their insights into how a mortgage buy-down works and when it might be a good option. Text has been edited for clarity and space.
Q: What is a buy-down?
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Hanson: Rate buy-downs allow home buyers to reduce the interest rates on a mortgage by paying points upfront. There are two types — temporary and permanent. Temporary buy-downs offer you lower interest rates for an annual predetermined period such as one, two or three years. A permanent buy-down reduces your interest rate for the full term of the loan.
Q: How does a temporary buy-down work?
Hanson: A “3-2-1” buy-down for a $400,000 mortgage at 6 percent costs approximately $18,000. Your first-year rate would be 3 percent [or down three points], second year 4 percent [down two points], third year 5 percent [down one point], and the fourth year through the remainder of your mortgage would return to 6 percent. You would save $732 per month the first year, $502 monthly the second year and $257 per month the third year.
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Temporary buy-downs can be paid by the buyer, seller or a third party such as a lender. Historically, builders have paid for buy-downs as a tool for selling new construction homes, and they have been gaining popularity for sellers as the resale market continues to soften.
Costs for a temporary buy-down vary based on market conditions and the type of buy-down. Typically, one point will cost one percent of the loan amount, so if your loan is $400,000, one point would cost $4,000. For “1-0” buy-downs, you’re buying one point for one year, for “2-1” buy-downs you’re buying three points and for “3-2-1” buy-downs you’d typically buy six points. Temporary buy-downs tend to be much cheaper than a permanent buy-down.
For temporary buy-downs, you must qualify for the loan at the permanent [or final] rate of the mortgage [after the buy-down ends].
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Q:How does a permanent buy-down work?
Hanson: A permanent buy-down lowers the interest rate for the entire life of the loan, so you qualify based on the final rate. Permanent buy-downs, which are available on most loans, are typically paid by the borrower, though sometimes home builders will contribute. A home buyer pays a certain number of “points” upfront to pay a lower interest rate over the life of the loan. Typically, home buyers will pay one point for a 0.25 percent reduction in their rate, but this varies based on interest rates and market conditions.
For example, on a $400,000 loan with a 7.375 percent rate, your monthly principal and interest payment would be $2,763. For approximately $8,000, you could lower your rate to 6.5 percent and save $234 per month for the entire loan term. Your $8,000 payment would be recouped in 2.7 years based on the monthly savings.
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Q: What circumstances make a buy-down a good decision for a buyer?
Barrow: If you’re planning to be in the home for the long term and it’s a permanent buy-down, this can be a good decision. The longer you plan to stay in the home, the better the chances are that buying down the mortgage is financially beneficial. However, if you expect interest rates to go down in the future, you may not need a buy-down, as you’ll have the option to refinance instead down the road.
To know if a buy-down makes sense, you need to determine your break-even point, which is how long you have to hold the loan to make it worth it to pay these points. For example, if the lower rate saves you $100 per month and the cost to buy down the loan is $1,200, your break-even is one year. If you hold the loan for longer than a year, you save $100 per month for the remainder of the loan term. In this example, buying down the rate makes sense if you plan to be in the home for more than a year.
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To manage the risk that rates don’t go down and you can’t refinance, a mortgage rate buy-down might be smart in terms of overall savings for the life of the loan.
Hanson: Seller- and third-party-paid temporary buy-downs can provide you with more buying power. You also get an added level of comfort knowing you’ll have more cash available in your monthly budget to cover typical expenses and some of the costs that come with owning a new home, such as new furniture and unexpected repairs.
A temporary buy-down may also make sense if you expect your income to increase over time. The buy-down allows you to pay a lower interest rate to start, then you’ll be able to afford the higher rates since your income will rise as your loan adjusts.
With a permanent buy-down, you should think about how long it will take to get to the break-even point and ask yourself if you’d rather have less cash in the bank now and a lower monthly payment or more cash in the bank and a higher payment.
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Q: What are the pros and cons of a temporary rate buy-down vs. a permanent buy-down?
Barrow: With a temporary buy-down, you’re really just paying upfront in exchange for a lower payment for a couple of years. In most cases this doesn’t make sense, unless the buy-down is paid by the builder or the seller, which is more apt to happen in a buyer’s market. If you expect your income to go up during the buy-down phase, then this may make sense. My concern would be that you get into a home that you can afford initially, but once the buy-down period is over, you may be in a situation where your monthly payment is more than you can comfortably afford.
A permanent buy-down makes more sense if you plan to be in the home for a long time or you expect interest rates to stay high for the foreseeable future, meaning you won’t have an opportunity to refinance to a lower rate anytime soon.
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Q: What are the downsides to a buy-down?
Barrow: The primary downside to a buy-down is the upfront cost and the lost opportunity cost. For example, if you spend $20,000 upfront to buy down your loan, what risks are you taking? What would that same $20,000 be doing if otherwise invested, and not paid upfront to the mortgage lender? Would you be investing that money for the long term, and could it earn more over the long term than you’re saving in rate adjustment? What if interest rates go lower in the future and you decide to refinance? Was it worth it to pay for the lower rate upfront when you may end up with an even lower rate option in the future?
Q: How does a buy-down compare with other options, such as making a bigger down payment or getting an adjustable-rate mortgage?
Barrow: Making a bigger down payment, especially if you can get to 20 percent, can help bring your rate down since many lenders will use that benchmark to determine your rate. You’ll also avoid paying private mortgage insurance with a 20 percent down payment. Additionally, a larger down payment has the net effect of a smaller monthly payment and less interest over the life of the loan. However, given the 30-year time, this may feel like a smaller benefit in the beginning, as it takes 30 years to feel the full benefit of the savings.
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Another tempting option for buyers is an adjustable-rate mortgage (ARM). Typically, an ARM has a lower rate than the average 30-year loan for an initial period, typically three, five or seven years, and will then fluctuate with the going rate. The problem with an ARM is that typically when the rate goes up, this makes the monthly payment jump up, sometimes dramatically.
While this option may be interesting for someone with a shorter time frame in the home, I would argue buying is too costly if you plan to own for only a short period of time. And if you plan to refinance before the rate jumps up after the term, what if rates are higher than they are now? Interest rate changes are notoriously hard to predict in the short term, much less the long term. Taking that much risk on something as important as your home is likely too much for most buyers.
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Frugal green living is important for everyone because environmental issues affect all of us, not just the people who can afford to be eco-conscious.
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Have you ever wondered how to be environmentally friendly?
Do you want to save money and the environment at the same time?
This article has 91+ frugal green living tips that will help! Let me know which ones are your favorites!
How to save money and be frugal green?
There are many ways to be frugal green and save money while helping the environment.
Plus in the long run living green costs less.
We will cover ideas for your kitchen, car, shopping and so much more. There are many other ways to be frugal green, so find what works best for you and make a difference!
These are ways to live more sustainably while saving money.
Importance of Sustainability and the Environment
You can save money and help the environment without making any major changes to your lifestyle.
Some easy ways to do this include, but are not limited to, changing your habits at home, buying used instead of new, and being more conscious about how you use energy.
Every day you can make the decision to choose to be a thrifty person.
Top 10 Best Frugal Green Living Tips
In order to save money and be more environmentally friendly, try some of these tips:
1. Reduce your use of plastics. This means bringing your own bags to the grocery store, refusing straws when you order drinks, and not using disposable utensils or plates.
2. Make Recycling a Priority. Recycling is important, and everyone should do their part to make it a part of their everyday routine. It’s not just for plastics and paper- there are many different things that can be recycled. By taking small steps like bringing a reusable coffee mug, we can all make a big difference in the long run.
3. Ride a bike or walk instead of driving. Not only is this better for the environment, but it’s also a great way to get some exercise.
4. Do the “green thing” and buy things secondhand! When you’re considering your lifestyle choices, buying things secondhand is a great way to do the “green thing.” You can save money and help reduce the amount of waste that goes into landfills.
5. Only buy what you need. Many times we buy things out of convenience or wants. Truly evaluate whether the purchase is necessary or if you can save money by buying used.
6. Compost as much as possible. Not only does this help reduce waste, but it also helps create nutrient-rich soil for plants.
7. Consider your carbon footprint. Americans use a tremendous amount of resources and impact the planet in many ways. We consume a lot of energy, materials, and water. Our lifestyles have a big environmental impact. There are many ways to be frugal and environmentally conscious, including recycling and reducing food waste.
8. Cut Out Paper and Plastic Waste. One way to be more frugal and green is to reduce the amount of paper and plastic waste you produce. Technology has greatly improved in many ways to cut down on plastic and paper consumption, so take advantage.
9. Think Before You Throw Away and Buy New. We are way too quick to toss things and replace them without even thinking. Next time before you throw it into the landfill, think about how you can reuse, repurpose, or give away the item.
10. Upcycle. The concept of upcycling has gained popularity in the past years. It is a simple way of taking something ugly and worn down, putting some TLC into it, and making it into something beautiful.
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Being frugal and being environmentally conscious may not always go hand in hand.
In some cases, you may have to make a choice between buying an eco-friendly item that is more expensive or sticking with a cheaper, non-sustainable option.
However, many of the aims of frugal families link to eco-friendly living.
Below are simple sustainable products to consider buying instead of their wasteful counterpart.
Reusable food bags are a great way to reduce your environmental impact while also saving money.
There are a variety of different types of food grade eco-friendly bags on the market today. They are made of safe, eco-friendly materials that will not harm the environment and they are lead-free, chloride-free, and BPA free.
Bamboo straws are a great eco-friendly alternative to plastic straws.
They are compostable, meaning they will never pollute the environment or harm animals. Bamboo straws are odorless and tasteless, so you can use them with any drink. Reusable bamboo straws make a great addition to your everyday kitchen supplies.
These dish cloths are also super absorbent and work better than microfiber cloths and paper towels for cleaning.
They are made from cellulose, which is a soft material that is gentle on your hands. They can be used for a variety of tasks, such as dishwashing, wiping down counters, and polishing furniture. And they are durable enough to be reused multiple times.
A reusable K-cup is a great way to reduce your environmental impact while enjoying your favorite cup of joe.
Works perfectly in our house! Not only do they help you save money in the long run, but they also allow you to customize your coffee experience like never before. Plus, using a reusable k-cup is an easy way to reduce waste and help preserve our planet.
Frugal Green in the Kitchen & Table
There are a number of ways to save money and be frugal green in your kitchen.
Use a Reusable Coffee Mug. So simple and easy to do. Pick your favorite up here.
Skip plastic straws. This is a simple thing to do for the environment. Buy reusable straws. And don’t forget the cleaning brush (hint… the cleaning brush will save you from throwing away your reusable straws.)
Skip the Paper Plates and Plastic Utensils. You will be shocked to see the waste this creates. Invest in quality dishes you like and don’t be afraid to wash them up.
Invest in a Water Filter. If you’re looking for ways to improve your diet and save money, consider investing in a water filter. We upgraded to an under-the-sink mount water filter and it was the BEST choice ever! This is the exact one we bought.
Cook at Home. Making your own meals can save you a lot of money in the long run. You’ll be surprised at how much money you can save by cooking simple meals yourself.
Grow a Kitchen Garden. One way to reduce your food costs is to grow some of your own fruits and vegetables. You can start with a kitchen garden, which is a small plot of land near your house where you can plant fruits, vegetables, and herbs. if you don’t have space, check out these Aerogardens.
Stop Using Plastic Wrap. To reduce your reliance on plastic wrap is to invest in some beeswax food wraps. These work just as well as plastic wrap, but because they’re made of natural materials, you can reuse them over and over again!
Air dry dishes. This is because air-drying dishes use less energy than running a dishwasher and takes up less time.
Stick With Instant Pot. When you’re cooking, try to use a microwave or pressure cooker instead of your oven. Ovens produce a lot of heat and use up a lot of energy, so using these other appliances will help conserve resources. This is the Instant Pot/Air Fryer Combo I love (and use ALL.THE.TIME)!
Frugal Green Cooking & Menu Plan
This may not seem as environmentally conscious as other areas, however, it will help your wallet more.
Buy produce at the local market. Fruits and vegetables tend to be cheaper at the market than they are at the grocery store, so this is a great way to save some cash while also doing your part for the environment. Plus you save on the costs of trucking in the produce and support local.
Join a CSA. These community-supported agricultures have become popular ways for consumers to buy local and seasonal food directly from the farm. You normally have a dollar amount buy-in or a certain number of hours worked for food.
Enjoy Organic Foods. Organic foods may be worth the extra cost – organic food has a higher nutritional value than conventional food, plus it’s better for the environment because it doesn’t require pesticides or chemical fertilizers.
Go Meatless. Americans, on average, eat twice the recommended amount of meat. Meat production is one of the leading causes of greenhouse gas emissions and climate change. Consider your carbon footprint when making dietary decisions.
Shop Grocery Weekly Ads. Start by looking out for food sales at the grocery store. This can help you save money while also being more mindful of the environmental impact your food choices have.
Meal Plan. One great way to save money on groceries is to plan your meals ahead of time. This allows you to be more strategic in your shopping and can help you avoid buying items that you don’t need.
Use Leftovers. When you’re cooking a meal, always cook a little more than you need. This way, you’ll have leftovers that can be used to make another meal or stored in a glass jar for later use.
Pantry Challenge Time! One way to save money on your groceries is to consider doing a pantry cleanse. This means eating all the foods in your pantry that are sitting there. Then, only buy groceries that you know you’ll use. This can help you avoid overspending and wasting food.
Skip Pre-Made or Boxed Mixes. Making your own is a more affordable option, as pre-made or boxed mixes can be expensive. There are many recipes online that are healthy and affordable, and by planning ahead you can save time and money.
Shop the Perimeter of the Grocery Store. A lot of people want to save money and be more environmentally friendly, but don’t know where to start. One way to do both is to try to stick to the perimeter of the grocery store. This means avoiding the center aisles, where most processed foods and extra packaging are found.
Buy Generic Brands. Generic brands are less expensive than their name-brand counterparts. This is because generic brands do not have the same marketing and advertising costs as name-brand products. Many times the quality is the same or better!
Key Frugal Green Ideas While Shopping
These are environmentally friendly ways to improve your shopping habits. Many people may call this frugal minimalism.
Donate First. It’s easy to just dispose of something when it’s no longer needed, but sometimes that thing could be reused or recycled. For example, if you have an old TV that isn’t being used, try selling it or donating it before throwing it away. There are a lot of people who might need your old TV, and you can get some money for it if you sell it.
Buy Refurbished. On the other hand, if you’re in the market for a new TV, think about buying one that is refurbished instead of buying a brand-new one. Refurbished electronics often come with the same warranty as new ones and cost way less than buying a brand-new model.
Try Fixing First. Just because something is broken doesn’t mean you have to throw it away! Many times, things can be fixed very easily and cheaply. If your electronic device is leaking toxic chemicals, however, you should definitely not try to fix it yourself–take it to a professional recycler instead.
Reuse your own grocery bags. This will save both money and the environment, as disposable grocery bags often end up in landfills. Also, many stores are now charging for grocery bags, so save a few bucks at the store.
Do not buy new books. You can borrow books from the library or from friends, or you can buy them used. Buying new books wastes resources, and it’s often cheaper to buy them used.
Use the Library. The library has a wealth of books, movies, and music that you can borrow for free. Plus you can find access to tons of digital resources as well.
Shop Second-Hand Stores for your needs. These are great places to find clothes, furniture, and other household items at a fraction of the price.
Stop buying the paper version of the newspaper. Instead, get the daily news online for free. Not only will you save a few bucks each month, but you’ll also help reduce deforestation.
Shop at Sustainable Businesses. Thankfully, many companies focus on being sustainable businesses by making changes from production, to packing to shipping. As a whole, the industry could do better to create less waste. One sustainable company is the Everyone Store.
Think Twice on Gifts. Really consider what someone would want for a gift. Too many times we opt for quick and cheap gifts that are materialistic in nature and never be used. So, consider some of these money gift ideas instead.
Frugal Green Cleaning Products that Are Eco Friendly
You may not be environmentally aware of the hazards of using most cleaning products. In fact, you should check your normal cleaning products with EWG’s database and their standards.
DIY Baking Soda & Vinegar. Using green cleaning products is usually more expensive than traditional ones. Baking soda and vinegar are easy-to-find, cost-effective alternatives to environmentally unfriendly cleaners.
Use Microfiber Cloths. Personally, this is my favorite way to cut the expansive (and not-good-for-you) cleaning products. These microfiber cloths are just as effective at cleaning and will save you money in the long run.
Skip the Disposable Rags. Use up-cycled rags from old clothes to pick up spills.
Stop Using Air Fresheners. Reduce or eliminate the use of air fresheners, which release harmful chemicals into the air. Plus they are super costly!
Frugal Green & Energy Use in the Laundry Room
Use Detergent Powder. Washing your clothes in a washing powder uses less water than liquid tabs, which come in more plastic packaging. Also, the powder is a much better environmental solution and better for your body. This is the detergent powder we use and love (and those I recommended it to love it as well)!
Sniff Test. Implement the sniff test and only wash clothes when they fail the sniff test. Beware of this recommendation with teenagers!
Line Dry Clothes. Additionally, line drying clothes throughout the year can save a ton on your energy bill! Plus your clothes do not wear as quickly.
Watch Your Hot, Wash in Cold. One easy way to save money on your household bills is to reduce the amount of hot water you use. Heating water takes up a large percentage of the energy used in households, so by washing your clothes in cold water, you can cut down on your energy usage significantly.
Frugal Green in the Bathroom & Morning Routine
Use Less Shampoo or Soap. In order to save money on your grocery bill, you can use less shampoo than is recommended. If everyone did this, it would result in significant monetary and plastic savings.
Turn the water off while brushing your teeth. It is important to turn the tap off while brushing teeth in order to conserve water. Many people forget to do this, and as a result, millions of gallons of water are wasted every year.
If it’s yellow, let it mellow. If the toilet water is yellow, it’s ok to let it mellow. You don’t have to flush to turn it off every time. Thanks to auto-flush toilets in most places this is very common for people to forget to flush at home.
Take Cooler Showers. This may not be everyone’s favorite. But take a cool shower rather than a piping hot shower. Most of the energy used is the hot water heater warming up the water.
Use Every Last Drop! There are a few ways to get the most out of your products and conserve them- one way is to leave bottles upside down for a couple of hours after you’ve used them so that you can get the last bit of product out. You can also roll up toothpaste tubes to get the remaining paste out. Here is a great product to help you squeeze every expensive ounce out.
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Green Lot with Frugal Green Landscaping
Xeroscape Your Lawn. Lawns are often seen as a status symbol, but they’re actually quite expensive and environmentally damaging. They require large amounts of water, fertilizer, and pesticides to maintain, which can leach into the groundwater and pollute the environment.
Change Mowing Schedule. Additionally, lawn mowing emits greenhouse gases that contribute to climate change.
Water Less Often. While this sounds great in theory, you may not be able to fully switch to xeriscaping your yard. If you can’t switch, then check out this Rachio to lessen your dependence on water.
Frugal Green Home Ownership
There are many ways to save money and be more environmentally conscious at the same time when owning a home.
Your home is probably one of your biggest expenses, so it’s important to take measures to conserve energy and save money. Plus there are many ways to reduce the amount of energy your home consumes!
Home Improvement Math. When considering whether or not to make an improvement to your home in order to reduce your carbon footprint, always do the math to see if the improvement will actually pay for itself. Sometimes it will and sometimes it won’t so be sure to weigh all of the options before making a decision.
Downsize Your Home. If you live in a large house, consider moving into a smaller one. This will help you save on your energy bill and make your home more efficient.
Install low-flow fixtures. One way is to install low-flow fixtures, such as showerheads and faucets. This will reduce your energy use and, in turn, your monthly bills. You can also save water by taking shorter showers.
Hang UV Blocking Curtains. By stopping the sun from heating up your house with curtains during the day, you can save on cooling costs in the summer. Using UV blocking curtains is something we did and notice a significant difference in the summer and winter.
Run Appliances with Full Loads Only. Wait until you have a full load of dishes or laundry before running the dishwasher or washing machine. You would be surprised at the amount of energy and water it takes to run those appliances.
Be Reasonable with Air Conditioning Temperature. In the summer, don’t crank up the air conditioning to save on your energy bill. You can also set your thermostat a couple of degrees higher in the summer to save money. Also, you may want to start cooling your house earlier in the day to prevent your AC unit from working overtime and consuming more energy.
Program Your Winter Heating Temperature. In the UK, A/C is not as common as it is in other countries. Central heating is used more often and is set to a lower room temperature for the summer and a higher room temperature for the winter. This is because people want to save on their energy bills.
Open Windows to Cool House. When the weather is nice, open your windows to allow for natural cooling. This is a simple and cheap way to cool your house. Especially after a nice cool thunderstorm.
Buy Energy Efficient Appliances. Energy-efficient models might be more expensive in the short term, but they will save you money in the long run and help reduce your environmental impact. However, these products should only be bought when the older model is worn out–don’t replace something just because it’s energy-efficient!
Replace Windows. On the one hand, it’s a great idea to replace your windows with more energy-efficient models if you’re staying in your home for many years. However, if you plan on moving within a few years, it might not be worth the investment. You’ll need to weigh the cost of the windows against how much money you’ll save on your monthly energy bill.
Get a programmable thermostat. Programmable thermostats are a great way to save money on your energy bill. You can set them to turn off or down when you’re not at home, or during times of the day when you don’t need as much heating or cooling.
Look for Energy Leakage. The typical older home has enough energy leakage that it’s the equivalent of leaving your front door open all year long. You can combat this by installing weather stripping and caulking around doors and windows and adding insulation to your attic. Most utility companies offer an energy audit.
Weatherize your Home. Weatherizing your home is a great way to improve energy efficiency and save money on your energy bills. There are many things you can do this and varies on the area of the world you live in.
Sustainable Frugal Green Transportation
Ditch the Car Completely. One of the biggest expenses for many people is their car. Whether you’re paying for car payments, insurance, gas, or maintenance, it can be a lot of money. You can eliminate this expense by ditching the keys and taking public transportation. Not only will you save money on your monthly expenses, but you’ll also help the environment!
Buy Hybrid Cars. Hybrids cars are expensive but they could help you save money on fuel in the long run – hybrids tend to have lower emissions than conventional cars. So, it might be time to say bye to that beater car.
Drive Less and Play Your Route. Driving less is the biggest way to reduce fuel-guzzling trips. Take it a step further with UPS research on their strategic delivery methods and focus on making only right-hand turns.
Carpool Whenever Possible. carpooling is a much more green choice than driving alone.
Look Into Car Sharing. When you only need a car occasionally, or for short trips, it might be more convenient and affordable to use a car-sharing service. Car-sharing services offer the opportunity to have access to wheels when you need them, and they’re flexible and convenient for short trips.
Invest in Electric Scooter. This mode of transportation is the uber-popular. You don’t need cash for gas, money for registration fees, and completely reliable to get around quickly. Check out the best electric scooters on the market.
Ride a Bike. A commuter bike is much cheaper than a car. Plus you get the added benefits of exercise and no carbon waste. Or upgrade to an E-bike.
Telecommute. If you can do your work remotely, then telecommute more often than not. This will save on transportation costs as well as pollution.
Walk More Often. Plan your day around being able to walk places that take under 30 minutes to get there. Then, it is better to walk than drive. Plus you can hit your 10000 steps quicker. It is a triple for the win – health benefits, free exercise, and fresh air!
Don’t Run Your Engine Unnecessarily. Leaving your engine running unnecessarily while stationary can waste fuel and cause environmental damage. Make sure to turn your engine off when you’re not moving to save money and help the planet!
Drive More Efficient. When it comes to saving fuel, one of the best ways is to drive more slowly and efficiently. This will help you save petrol or diesel and reduce your carbon footprint. For example, slowly put your foot on the accelerate to maintain a speed.
Frugal Green Budgeting Per Month
Choose To Save Rather Than Spend. Every tie you actively choose to save your money rather than spend it. You help the environmental impact. We have plenty of popular money saving challenges to help you save more money today.
Pay Bills Online. When you pay bills online, you can save a lot of time, space, and money. You can also save paper by paying your bills online–instead of receiving paper statements in the mail, you can access them online.
Find Free Things to Do. This one is a win-win for frugality environmentalism. Focus on finding activities from this list of things to do with no money. Many of them are already frugal green wins.
Opt for Paperless. And finally, if you pay your bills online, you may automatically receive discounts on some of your monthly bills! Many companies now charge a $2-5 paper statement to be mailed.
Focus on Financial Independence. This may seem like a crazy idea, but it is true. The more you save, the faster you reach financial independence. In fact, this is with the Frugalwoods decided to be frugal in the first place.
Follow Simple Frugal Living Green Ideas – Way to Go Green
Reduce, reuse, recycle. This old mantra is more important than ever in today’s world. By recycling everything you can, you can help conserve resources and keep waste out of landfills.
Your Mindset is Everything. Just like with anything, if you decide to commit yourselves to become environmentally aware, then you are likely to succeed. You don’t have to become extremely frugal overnight. You just have to remember that mindset is everything in this process.
Turn off electronics when not in use. This includes televisions, computers, and other appliances. By turning them off, you’re conserving energy (and saving money). Plus some older appliances might be fire hazards if left plugged in.
Stop Junk Mail. One way to reduce the amount of junk mail you receive is to go through your postal mail and ask to be removed from lists you’re not interested in. This can be done by contacting the Direct Marketing Association (DMA) or specific companies that send you unsolicited mail.
Grab a Sweatershirt or Blanket when Cold. Instead of automatically adjusting the programmable thermostat higher, you can also save by wearing a sweater or using a blanket. Maybe turn on the fireplace before putting the heating on.
Invest in Renewable Energy. In today’s world, it is more important than ever to invest in renewable energy. There are many reasons for this:
First and foremost, using renewable energy helps to reduce our dependence on fossil fuels, which are finite and contribute to climate change.
Renewable energy also creates jobs and supports local businesses.
And finally, investing in renewables reduces our greenhouse gas emissions, helping to fight climate change.
In the long run, renewable energy can save you money and reduce emissions by providing power more reliably, often more cheaply than a traditional power source.
Are You Ready Live Life Frugal Green?
Living a more frugal lifestyle is good for the environment because it costs less.
It doesn’t take much to make small changes in your life that will have a big impact on the planet. For example, consume less and you’ll be doing the most earth-friendly thing you can do.
There are dozens of ways to save money and be more environmentally conscious which we covered in this post.
Being frugal and being green often go hand in hand.
However, most people lose steam after just a couple of weeks. So, do not attempt to do each frugal green living habit.
Pick your top 3 with the biggest impact.
Add one another 1-3 frugal living tips every month or so.
Over time, you will be surprised to see how easy it is to live frugal green, while also helping you to save money while also protecting the environment.
You can be the frugal green girl or gal with a few of these simple habits. Or choose to follow a frugal blog or frugal forum.
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